Which frogs can be kept together
I have 5 treefrogs in a 20gal tank with a cage topper doubleing the space. I placed an airstone in the center so frogs can collect the moisture. This setup has required the least maintenance for me given the buildup of mixed species poop. I plan to add a couple more frogs soon. Good luck :-D. June 10th, 5. Could be a noob question but arent whites,dumpy, and Australian whites all the same just different color morphs?
I thought u heard that either way I think it's reckless to mix species and def if there is a size difference just bc it's done at a pets store doesn't mean it's right most those animals are moved fairly quick so they don't have time to die due to the toxins made by their tank mates.
June 11th, 6. The White's will get bigger then the Big Eyes and will more then likely eat them as they will be much smaller then them when fully grown. June 11th, 7. Re: house tree frogs together new it! June 11th, 8. Im just sharing that this setup is successful for my diff species in case you wanted to know or were asking.
I wasent asking if i should remove my own frogs tho lmao! So Please dont yell at the frog whisperer. June 11th, 9. Re: house tree frogs together I don't care if you were asking or not. If you give an ounce of care about your frog's well being I would remove the 2 Big Eye Tree Frogs from your White's Tree Frogs before something has a chance to happen.
Just because you have kept these two species together, for now I don't know how long you've had them together , does not make it a success or remotely okay. I'm also reiterating for anyone else who may search and find this thread that it is NOT okay to be housing these two species together. And back to the OP's question again NO it is NOT okay to mix species of tree frogs! If you had to absolutely mix species, for whatever reason June 11th, Re: house tree frogs together.
Originally Posted by toxxxickitten. I don't care if you were asking or not. June 12th, Re: house tree frogs together Just some notes on mixed species tanks. As a rule of thumb, and you will find on every frog specific forum on the web, mixing species is never recommended. Main reason is that the transfer of what secrets from the skin of each species is different with every species. Since frogs absorb what they drink and everything that touches their skin, even the trace left behind when a frog travels the tank is eventually a portability of a contaminant to the other tank mates.
Will it kill a frog quickly? No, but frogs can live up to 20 years and what they absorb can slowly, over years, kill the frog due to the materials absorbed slowly deteriorating the frog internally. Now, the argument here is the frog secretions are based on what they eat so over long term they should secrete the same poisons if eating exactly the same meals.
Since I am not an expert on what exactly the break down of poisons are between frogs under these circumstances, and would take years of testing and tests from multiple tanks of frogs compared, it is why no one recommends putting them in the same environment.. Pet stores put them together in tanks for short term housing and display. Since they are trying to sell many species with limited space, you will find they combine many amphibians and reptiles together.
It is about the money for the retailer and not long term health conditions. Re: house tree frogs together Just to expand on something Don brought to light and nailed perfectly I might add , when dealing with animals that are wild caught, as many species common in the trade these days are, you also have to worry about bacteria, fungus and other icky microfauna that may be passed between frogs. You can clearly see the differences between these two species. You have probably heard about this.
Frogs secret some kind of poisonous substances from their skin. This poison differs from species to species. When they come in contact with predators, humans, and other frog species. We know that frogs are Amphibians. They absorb almost everything through their skin. So, whenever a frog secret poisons to harm another frog, it absorbs the poison unknowingly.
There might not be an immediate effect, but it slowly disrupts the normal physiological activities inside a frog. A frog usually lives for roughly around years. The frog will become weaker and will probably stop eating. So, before putting multiple tree frog species together, make sure their poisons do not harm each other. If you are looking forward to breeding your tree frog pair, you should never keep other tree frogs in that terrarium.
Male frogs have a tendency to compete with each other to attract female mates. So if you keep multiple male frogs inside an enclosure, you will experience extreme croaking. Besides, male tree frogs try to force their dominance on each other. So it is wise to not keep more than one male tree frog inside a gallon.
Tree frogs or frogs, in general, do not show parental behaviors after their eggs are hatched. They may eat their own tadpoles. So keeping an extra frog will increase the risk even more. YES, but not always. Some tree frog species prefer living alone. Tree frog species like Green tree frogs and whites Dumpy tree frogs can live together with a community.
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Some of the things like set-up of the tank and making insect traps can be a bit tricky, so get an adult to help you with these. But after set-up, they are fairly easy to keep.
This page is really just an introduction to the wonderful world of amphibian care, so have a look at the further reading to find extra information on topics on this page, and to find out about things not discussed on this page, like breeding and outdoor housing. They also provided some of the information for this page!
What kinds of amphibians can I keep as pets in NZ? Where can I get pet amphibians? What do I need to keep amphibians? How long do pet amphibians live for? Will amphibians eat each other? What do I feed them? Make your own insect traps How to breed insects How do I keep tadpoles? Further reading What kinds of amphibians can I keep as pets in NZ?
It is against the law to keep any of the native frogs. There are a few people in New Zealand who are allowed to keep native frogs, but these people are native frog specialists who DOC has given a permit to. You must not release axolotls or newts into the wild, as they are not found naturally in New Zealand and could cause big environmental problems if they become wild. Also, it is important not to let any pet frogs or tadpoles back into the wild, because they can spread diseases that they may have picked up in captivity to other wild frogs.
Non-native New Zealand frogs can be bought from pet stores or garden centers or collected from the wild as spawn or tadpoles. Tadpoles and spawn are found in still water, so check ponds, wetlands or even farm animal drinking troughs. Also, if it is not your land, it is a good idea to ask for permission from the owner.
Both Bell frogs lay large clumps of spawn in pond weed. Bell frog spawn floats during the first few days after being laid, then becomes submerged just beneath the water surface.
It can be really hard to tell different species of tadpoles apart when they are little. A good idea might be to go looking for frogs at night with a torch make sure you do this with an adult so that you know which type of frogs your tadpoles came from.
See the guide to New Zealand frogs in this site for help with identifying frogs. Normally, though, if you see big tadpoles more than 5cms long they will be Bell frog tadpoles. Back to top. Home Site Map Back to top. All rights reserved.
Back to top What do I need to keep amphibians? Tank All amphibians need a closed tank, because frogs and newts can climb glass and axolotls can jump out of the water. Closed tanks also stop live insect food from escaping. Glass or plastic containers make good tanks but at least one of the sides frogs only or the top frogs, newts and axolotls needs to be made of mesh to let air in.
Very fine mesh like muslin or cheesecloth works well because you can keep really small insects like fruit flies from escaping. Size and shape of the tank depends on the size and species and number of amphibians you want to keep. Minimum tank sizes are given here, but your amphibians are likely to be healthier if given a larger tank.
The tanks described here are for indoors. However, the frogs can be kept in outdoor housing see T. It is best to keep indoor amphibian tanks in quiet areas and out of direct all-day sun.
Brown tree frogs like to climb, so a tall tank is best. For two to three adults, the minimum tank size is mm high x mm long x mm wide. But, they can grow quite large so you will need a fairly large tank.
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